Could he be talking about…

Nah.  Couldn’t be.  Could it?

From his Sermon, Jesus Heals on the Sabbath, given on January 30, 2011.

And [religious people] show up in the weirdest places. Jesus is walking from Galilee to Jerusalem over the course of many months, he’s out in the middle of nowhere in a field and it says the Pharisees were there. Like they teleported in. These guys are stalkers, they’re just following him around. Religious people love to keep an eye on everyone else. And now in the age of the Internet and Facebook and Twitter and blogs, they’re worse than ever. Keeping an eye on everyone and everything, always looking for a fight. It’s a religious attitude.

I don’t know exactly who Mark Driscoll is talking about here, but I have been very clear that I started this blog for one reason and one reason only and I think it is at least a good time to take the opportunity to reemphasize it.  I did not begin Driscollwatch for any of the reasons that Mark mentions here. I’m not here to tear down anybody’s faith, in fact, I have repeatedly praised Mars Hill here on this blog. So Pastor Mark probably wasn’t talking about us, although I’d love to know that he has read what I have to say (there are, after all, plenty of other evangelical protestants who spill a lot of cyber ink on Mark and his style of preaching).

Mark Driscoll says many things that I don’t agree with as a Catholic.  I disagree with his theology of predestination, his stance on birth control, his theology of Grace in the life of a Christian and many other things.  But I didn’t start this blog to try and fight him on any of his theological positions.  Mark Driscoll and the folks at Mars Hill have every right to worship God and believe in him according to their conscience, and as a Catholic I defend their right to do so.

But I did start this blog for a reason, and that reason is to defend my faith against what I believe to be unfair explanations of my faith, whether they are made out of ignorance or whether they are deliberate. I hope to educate him and people that he has influence over as to why I and other faithful Catholics believe what we believe and do what we do.

The thing about some religious people is that they like to pretend like they know everything, not just about their own beliefs, but about everyone else’s beliefs as well.  All I want is for  Pastor Mark to explain my beliefs accurately, as I’m sure he would all expect of me.

So Mark, its pretty simple.  If you ever bring up my beliefs, just explain them accurately!  If you ever need help or clarification for anything again, just send me an email ( ) and I’d be happy to explain things to you.  And if you don’t, I’m going to keep writing here to explain my beliefs for you.


5 comments on “Could he be talking about…

  1. ckarbows says:

    Well said.

  2. Christian says:

    I think Jesus counted on the scribes and Pharisees to call him out on what they saw as his errors or blasphemies: they kept him well-supplied with teaching opportunities.

  3. Tom says:

    Great post.

    “Religious people love to keep an eye on everyone else.” -Mark Driscoll

    Maybe it’s just me, but that seems like painting with a pretty broad brush. For instance, I think most people would describe me as a religious person (I have faith in Jesus Christ, I attend church every Sunday, I try to love God above everything else in my life, etc.), but I reject out of hand the notion that this somehow means I ‘love to keep an eye on everyone else.’

    Forget about me — isn’t Mark a religious person? Doesn’t he take his faith very seriously? Hasn’t he dedicated his life to religious preaching?

    This accusation he makes of all religious people is sloppy at best; it’s certainly uncharitable and, I would submit, foreign to the principles of Christianity.

    • zeeehjee says:

      Tom –

      Thanks for the comment. I’ve watched a lot of Mark Driscoll’s sermons and this is a theme that constantly shows up in his thought, especially in this series on the Gospel of Luke. I’ve thought about doing a post on his use of the term religion, but I sort of let it slide because 1) the purpose of the blog isn’t to critique Mark Driscoll’s theology or philosophy unless it directly pertains to defending the Catholic Church specifically and 2) I think he sort of has a point, even though I wouldn’t use the term religion. I prefer “legalism” (which is the canonical term that Catholics use for the same reality).

      I also have no problem with people calling Christianity a religion. What I would take issue with is somebody saying that Catholicism is a religion in the same sense of the term that Islam, or Hinduism is a religion. Christianity is very unique as far as religions go, and it is the distinction that I’m concerned about.

      I agree with you, though. The adjective “religious” is used to describe people that attend Church and have some sort of communal experience of prayer and worship. To define it as something other than that to make your Church stand out seems a bit dubious to me. Are some people who attend Church legalistic? Absolutely, but as you point out, this is not essential to the life of a person that attends Church and has a communal experience of worship.

      Here is a youtube clip in which Mark Driscoll explains to all of us exactly what religious people are like. My favorite is that religious people are all single issue voters.

  4. Jenny says:

    Thanks for pointing out the broad brush Pastor Mark uses to describe religious people. To him, it is an insult. I just can’t help but feel that he is biting the hands that feed him. Aren’t those who have faith in Jesus religious? Isn’t Christianity a religion? Why does he feel he has the right to redefine what being religious is? It’s very presumptuous, but he is not, by is own admission, a very humble person.

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